yeah but the thing is though, its Moyes tactics that make us play 4-5-1 with no real wide players in the team, and thats obvious to anyone,Victor is truely one of the worst players ever in the top flight, he is just not a footballer whatsoever, yet the manager still persists with him, look back at it Beattie,AJ Radzinski,Bent, all shit!! now you can go on about money and that, but we did spend money on AJ and Beattie, and all these knowledgable people, are they pushing Moyes forward for the major european jobs, are they fuck, he has alot too learn imo, but i understand your point bro, just opinions at the end of the day