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West Brom - must hold the prem record anyway!

Preston North End (or another founder member?)

Jackie Charlton!

Strachan, Brehmner, Cantona, Hunter.

Wenger loaned an 18-19 year old jack wilshere out, when many thought he should have been playing at Arsenal, he came back, got another pre-season under his belt and was a key player until he got injured. If we loan Ross to a team like Southampton, Blackpool or Cardiff, even just for a month I think it would do him the world of good.

I'd like to see (when Donovan's gone)... 1st choice xi: ...............Howard............... Hibbo..Heit...Distin...Baines Drenthe..Rod..Felli..Pienaar ......Anichebe...Jelavic......... Back-up xi: ...............Mucha............... Coleman..Jags...Duffy...Nev .........Gibson...Cahill........... .................Barkley.............. Baxter.......................Gueye .............Straq/Velios............ Obviously there's 2 different systems there and we have a few injuries at the mo. Watching Newcastle this season shows that 4-4-2 isn't dead, it's worked for them even with Best and Ameobi up top at times! I would actually like to see Anichebe given a run, up-top and as part of a front 2. I just think he's beefed up (muscle) so much he could really bully defenders and put the shits up them. I too would like Barkley get game time and think he should get it in the hole that Cahill usually fills. Like said before I'd like Cahill to play as more of a DMC, breaking up play and putting himself about (as back-up though). Nev is probably our back-up for Baines and Hibbert - couldn't see Coleman and Drenthe working on the same flank!

Exactly.

I share that opinion to some degree. Sir Alex has changed his assistant regularly in his time - new ideas - they've not done too shoddy!!! I'd like Wilkins or someone from the continent e.g queirez at man.utd.

No, talking about Moyes.

Yes but who? My first point was why would Rodgers come to us?

Agree, it was ticking along until the freak goal - that put us on the front and them on the back foot.

Watford/Reading? He's Jose's 'student' as Jose was 'Sir Bobby's'. I think he will be a very good manager (good pedigree) and admire how his team are playing currently, but it's early to be getting too carried away about him.

Had Vic not equalised? I was quite happy with our starting line-up, bringing Neville on for Cahill however was a very negative substitution.

Off the top of my head, Allen, Williams, Taylor - Wales, Sig(whatever his name is)arson - Iceland, Caulker/Sinclair/McCechran - Eng u21. I'd imagine Vorm (and Krul of NUFC) will be in a Dutch squad very soon too. Yeah we've got a lot more but we're an established PL club. When Swansea are established in the PL like Stoke then we can talk about how great Rodgers is. Don't get me wrong, I like him but he hasn't really proved anything yet - remember they're still on a high after coming up, didn't Wigan finish 8th in their 1st season? Moral at EFC this season must be so low with all the outs over the summer, it seems to be on the up now. I have been very frustrated by some of Moyes decisions this season but he has had his hands tied for the last 3 years, he had built something (to a point) and hasn't been able to push on. I would like to see some of the players not playing, playing and a more positive approach at times but that's what we don't know so who's to say it would work? I for one still think Moyes is the right man for the job - in the current climate anyway.

I agree and hope it works for them. What I'm saying though is if it doesn't work for them and say they free fall now until the end of the season, we won't be talking about how well he had done on here!

A Tamworth fan who I work with said things to effect after the FA Cup game. I haven't read all posts - anyone know of the well being of the child/father?

The same Saha who was sadly our only striker with any experience at the highest level and has been a top, top Premiership striker - it didn't work for him but as already stated, I think Spurs will get a bit out of him. If we had Beckford or Yak I would have called for them to be playing but Velios and Straq were our only other options - you could say both have done more in their little time? Neither are good enough though - hopefully we have the resolution now in Jelavic - only time will tell. As for Bily, he clearly isn't a Premier League winger but in saying that he clearly isn't a Premier League player. Signing him was a mistake.

Brendan Rodgers manages many internationals, not as many as Moyes but still internationals and yes he's playing great football at the moment (mainly at home). At the same time though they looked as poor as any team I've seen at Goodison this season. Blackpool played some great stuff like Swansea, but ultimately got found out. What becomes of Rodgers if Swansea go on a lean streak? Will he still be touted our saviour for his half season of good football in the PL? Holloway is long forgotten, Coyle is barely mentioned, Moyes is no longer our saviour - football fans are fickle (and I'm not excluding myself from that generalisation.)

Exactly. Toffeetalk... For The Thinking Evertonian. What's happening?

The comments that he will be played more at home were made and at the moment that is what's happening. Let's not forget the EFC management/coaching team see him on a daily basis in training - he doesn't just need to prove himself on the pitch, which many on here don't think he has. I think we'll see him cement a place once donovan's loan is up.

Why would he come here? In our current situation e.g not competitive in the transfer market unless we sell, I think we've got the best manager we could wish for. If we were taken over, hence money available, Moyes would then have to prove himself in that situation. If he didn't then a manager like Rodgers/Lambert would be appealing (obviously Mourinho if we ever had billions!!! *wakes-up*) - thing is when we were doing poor last year people were calling for moyes' head and quoting holloway and coyle as better options - it's a funny old game... and let's be honest football fans are generally fickle!

I want Kaspar Schmeical if Leicester don't come up. Maybe in a swap deal involving Silva? (seemlessy bringing us back on topic!!! )

Disagree.

Bringing Neville on for Cahill was a horrible decision - it should have been Jelavic or Anichebe/Drenthe at least. Neville should only be in contention with Hibbert and maybe to come on late in tight games when we need organising to see the game out. Cahill however is far from finished in my eyes - maybe as a 'forward' his best days are behind him... he needs reinventing now because of this. Cahill should be a deeper midfielder now - we'd still benefit from his threat at set pieces. He's still got fight in him I just think it needs to be deeper rather than when we plump for Neville or Johnny in that role. I think we'll see Rodwell playing off Jelavic when fit.

Of course foresight, the word I'm thinking of hasn't been created yet! Hypethetical hindsight will have to do!!!