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We've lost a bit of ground on the leading pack but overall the weekend hasn't been too bad on us - I'm very positive as we were excellent at times and have some very winnable games upcoming... (Plus Fulham is an incredible away day!)

Holtby would move Fellaini back to become the deeper holding mid. I think Lallana could play the deep playmaker Arteta role.

I don't think there's a problem with our 4-2-3-1, it's just the fact that Gibbo makes that 2 so much better. I'd stay with this system but target 2 Cm's who can play in the system - I think Holtby and Lallana could be very interesting (and they're both blues). Both could be available in the summer certainly with maybe a cheeky bid in Jan enough to snatch Holtby early?

I've put this on my door-step so hopefully the kids will stay well clear.

No refunds on away tickets so DM me if anyone wants it - plan to be in London by 9 on Sat so can meet pre-game to sort all formalities!

No!

It's an incredible game - sadly only started watching at 4-1 though!!!

I've got a spare unless the club will refund it. £40 face value if not.

Completely agree.

On their disallowed goal was it a free kick in the 1st place? I didn't think so!

Don't get me wrong I think it was a fair result overall even with their '3rd goal' as we were due a few decisions because the ref really pissed me off and was very if in doubt give it to Liverpool! The one example I'll give is when we take a quick free kick and it's a certain goal when Naismith passes to Jelavic to poke into an empty net the ref stops play and we have to retake it... but moments later Liverpoo get a free kick in a similar area which they take quickly and are allowed to play on - SHITE!

Mirallas would have walked this had he not have been stamped on by a dirty red (one of many) to prematurely end his afternoon. Gave it to Coleman though, was lively and energetic throughout. I was really disappointed with Jelavic today - he needs to do more to get into games like today.

I actually think Oviedo may get a start. Neville will 100% lead the team out - I don't see him playing many games beyond the January window though.

Men Behaving Badly - classic episode (they all are!!!) when Gary pays to beat up the man in the pub!

Spot on... sadly many rate players on whether they actually like them as a personality or not... and some just go off the hype (which works both ways!)

We do need another classy central midfield option so fingers crossed.

Looking forward to watching him tomorrow night. Him and Lallana in the Royal Blue jersey would be perfect for next season!!!

Would be delighted personally - we brought Naismith on for Vic on Sunday to try to change the game - I think Donovan is still a better option than both. He would certainly improve our still very small squad.

What I was trying to say in a round about way was you can pretty much discard pre-premiership years success when talking fan bases as the most supported teams worldwide are those who have succeeded in the sky/premier league era hence man.utd, Chelsea and arsenal being the most supported premier league teams worldwide - man.city won't be far off the latter 2 and the red shite can be ranked in that group. All other prem teams can't compete in regards to worldwide fan base which I believe reflects size of club. Obviously success usually brings support (which we've been saying) and sadly money can buy success but fan base also brings money which can bring success... (I need a lie down). Back to my original point - Everton were robbed of their best chance of a European Cup in our most successful era due to the euro ban and maybe this knocked on to us possibly being better placed for the formation of the premiership... as said it is speculation but at the same time it is very relevant.

The striker was sent off two minutes before half-time in the 2-1 defeat at Vicarage Road after being shown a second yellow card for an alleged stamp on Nicky Bailey.

Someone on talksport said some clubs only received 11 t-shirts for the starting xi so in some cases there wasn't enough t-shirts to go round when the full 18 were warming up!!!

Maybe we can appeal it though... http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11686/8152931/Watford-striker-Matej-Vydra-has-won-his-appeal-against-a-red-card

I meant less recent - surely size is to do with fan base/resources as much as previous success... English football is worldwide now - totally different to say in the 80's... Man.Utd have been the biggest benificiaries of the sky tv years because they had a smart business model and were the best team when the prem formed (e.g won the first league) - due to their success in the prem era they are the most supported team in the world - does that make them the biggest team in the world? I would say so, although there are better teams than them and probably more successful teams on the world stage.

Exactly!!! The shite have more resources, trophies and a hell of a lot more worldwide fans but they're in our shadow when it comes to heart, passion, loyalty and current league position!!!