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Back on to Capoue (kind of) - surely Sissoko who we've watched a few times is a more likely target with him being a free agent in the summer and the club seemingly ready to cash in rather than loose him for nothing.

Disgusting! I've always liked Southampton - mainly because of Le Tiss. If there's a players revolt on the back of this it could work out perfectly... Adam Lallana - Evertonian!

Agree.

5 with Cahill, 6 with Felli just been on OS past games and worked it out.

I'm sure of the 11 goals Jela got last season 7 were when partnered by Cahill and 4 when partnered by Felli.

You'd be surprised... there's some right clueless and fickle fools in this world!!!

Donovan wouldn't be a loan option now - too late with MLS preseason - he'd have been in on 1st Jan if it was happening on-loan. But permanently?!? Isn't his contract up/talk of retirement or break from MLS?

Man.Utd consistently play more games than us season on season so it's easier to use more of their squad plus they haven't quality than us in general so can 'carry' youngsters. Thing is for every Chadwick there's a Pogba or Morrison... Pogba left as he didn't feel he was getting the game time at Man.Utd, I'd imagine some mancs would have moaned that Scholes and Carrick were playing ahead of him at the time! Cleverly had a couple of seasons out on loan as did Welbeck. Moyes is doing this with Barkley and would probably do it with Vellios if we had another senior striker on board.

Some like to sit back and hide away when we're doing well then come out with their marching band as soon as there's a negative. It must turn some folk on - sick bastards!!!

Vic did more than Vellios last season when given chances yes. Vic has been an important player this season scoring some important goals. In the past Vic has been a controversial character but he seems to have learned a bit as he's matured and is now a valuable member of our 1st team/squad. As for what steveO has said regarding Ferguson/Vellios, I'm not saying he's lying but maybe he's been misinformed or not got the full story as it sounds total nonsense. Regarding 1st team experience - Moyes putting the youngsters in the match day squad is part of their development regardless if they get on the pitch or not, besides nerves/occasion affects people in different ways some will thrive on it some won't. Hopefully we will be on a European platform next season which will allow Moyes to give some of the kids a few more minutes as it has done in the past.

Plenty as will Vellios if he continues to apply himself.

Exactly, Victor looks more prolific than Vellios too.

Yawn - the he's amazing based on the few moments I've seen him although I don't know the lad or see him working on a daily basis - I'll ignore he looked out of his depth when thrown in as he's young. The kids will play when they're ready, name one who has gone on to better things because Moyes ignored him and wouldn't play him?

You on your period pet? The tone was lowered as you had to turn it into porno chat.

I'm sure the badge is on it's way! Lowering to your tone, if you are a young pornstar you can learn off more experienced pornstars without taking the starring role in the blockbuster movie as you are learning with them on a daily basis not necessarily in the public eye knowing one day, if you're good enough, you'll be ready to perform at the highest level.

Well done - of course they gain experience of occasion/ working with 1st team but who are you to say what level they need? Do Moyes and his staff lack common sense for not playing these lads?

What qualification or experience do you have to say what experience youngsters gain from training/being involved with the 1st team? James McClean was 22 - broke through at a similar age to Seamus. Moyes has done well with Seamus. McClean seems to have plateaued like Coleman had before he was moved to RB.

Vellios got a couple of starts but looked out of his depth at times when Saha was here - the dead horse was given away. I would not play Vellios over Jelavic, he's not as good as him in simple terms. If we had options like Man.Utd, Man.City, then dropping an off peak Jela would be easy but in reality we've got a Greek u21 striker as back-up not top class internationals.

Youngsters do play against/with the 1st team in training. They do play with 1st teamers in u21 fixtures, they do have a pre-season training with the senior players, Moyes and his staff do lead/attend these. They are in a better position and more qualified than us to judge what experience these youngsters need. Who's the dead horse striker?

Not if the youngster isn't ready so not good enough yet! Or the youngster doesn't play in said position to replace senior player.

Spot on... I'm joining this arse licking too! Many Evertonians forget that Moyes works with these players on a daily basis and it would be to his benefit if they were ready to be first team starters and better than what we've got. Not every youngster is the new Wayne Rooney, not every youngster is better than what we have. I remember some wanting Junior in over Neville - on what basis? Yes Neville may have lean spells but replace him with someone who we all know little about - nonsense! Look at the bigger picture and look to Leon Osman as an shining example - into his 30's now and didn't starting playing 1st team until 23 but feels like he's been here forever. Not all players are thrown in at 16,17,18 - ROONEY IS A ONCE IN A HOWEVER MANY YEARS!

I was just about to post that myself - we're Sunderland's bogey team!

He went on deadline day when we were being heavily linked, we reportedly wanted loan to buy and stoke managed to get him, Adam and edu in. Rumours suggested Essien was our main target and we all know what did or rather didn't happen with Ofoe!

He's been stood down from his game tonight - shocking! How dare he talk to these footballing gods in that way!!!

Green's on for the last 10 vs Blackburn u21s - 3 up - Macaleny, Lundstram, Junior.