Makis

http://sidespin.kinja.com/the-padres-suck-heres-why-472930403

Mixed feelings. Padres did get investment but Moores was in it for the money. So it depends on how he intends to make that money. Make the club succesful, increase its value and then sell or simply buy relatively cheap, sell off the best assets (Stones, Lukaku, Barkley) and then move the club forward for a nice tidy sum. Those three could raise close to 150 million alone. Throw in Coleman and McCarthy for an extra 20+ million and 250 million seems cheap. Especially considering what the TV deal is worth. As long as the club stays in the PL it should be worth ~150 million on back of the TV money.

There was an article in a Finnish sports magazine prior to start the season. He moved to Merseyside with his family when he was 11 and has progressed through the ranks, but that's about the useful info I can remember from it.

Anyone know how he's been doing? Sounds like he has had a bad injury (according to the story in today's Echo) but anyone have an opinion on him?

That's the thing with any team outside the top four. Southampton have lost several key players in the last few seasons. Europe does not guarantee anything, players might still leave.

Osman said that thing way back. It does not mean the team still doesn't train them. Unlike Moyes, Martinez seems to be prepared to change things. Tactically, for instance, the team is quite different from two seasons ago.

Our defense is crap at defending crosses at all. Corners or otherwise. Who doesn't get worried when the opponent pumps high balls into our box? There's never any conviction in winning the cross, and even when it happens, invariably the clearance is shite.

Vidic seems finished but we need someone like him. The fact our defense is the worst in the league to defend against crosses is unacceptable and needs sorting out.

As Romey said, the offer was for less. And Byram seems to be able to play right mid and attack as well. No idea if he's any good, mind, as I've never seen him play.

He's not in the team because he refuses to sign a new contract. No reason to give him for free.

I think the point is he's not that good *yet*. Realistically, which keepers who are more promising could be willing to come to Everton. Forget the young German guys (Horn and Karius), they'll get better offers elsewhere.

Metro claims Klopp is ready to splash 20 million on him. Mirror claims the price would be 17 million.

Team needs to find consistency, I think we will drop points in an easy game and people will again moan.

Cleverley is not particularly creative and very different from Barkley. We need a creative player who can play in the wing or as #10. A Silva or Cazorla type player.

Barry has been superb but he himself said he expected to play less last year than he did. And he's now 34, so how long do you think he will play every match? Would you really drop Barry in his current form?

So, basically, fingers crossed Barkley stays fit and plays this well the entire season?

McGeady is almost certainly leaving and I wouldn't be surprised if Mirallas did, too. Pienaar is finished. After that how many wide players do we have? Deulofeu and Lennon plus players who are not really wide players but are still put there (Kone, Naismith, Osman).

Yeah, he specifically said he learned about this Youtube thing and has been watching things from it. So defo Bill was referring to himself there.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-fc-transfer-rumours-blues-10343979

To make this a similar situation your bar would be collateral to some loans you have which amount to quite a lot. The assets are in a form that is not easy to cash in (at least for a fair price) and carry a big risk of loosing value. And bar's income fluctuates wildly, yet you have already used next years income as collateral as well.

Yep. And that assumes there are no major issues with the permission.

Problem with that is that it would take years to complete the stadium. Let's say someone bought the club tomorrow. When would the new stadium open? 2020? And that's assuming everything goes well.

So financial and marketing performance has no bearing in the value? Because that's what I said (off the pitch performance) and you say I'm wrong. Interesting, btw, how we have been told City was preferred over us because they had a new stadium. Now you say it's exactly the other way around?

Fulham's stadium must be one of the most valuable just by it's location. How much would that land be worth? Transfermarkt values are just numbers. They are set by people just like us and often not updated for a long time. With assets like that a reasonable idea would be to estimate the value and divide by at least two. Consider someone like Lukaku, who in Transfermarkt is considered our most valuable player at 28 million: he could be injured, or he could simply sit out his contract. What value would he then be? Leeds thought back around the turn of the century that even they overspend they at least have the assets on the pitch. But they found out it's not enough if you set them a price, someone needs to be willing to pay it. And that's why it's foolish to think a buyer will look at Transfermarkt and consider that sum. And even if the club could sell players with a reasonably high price, so what? They would need to be replaced or the squad would get worse, which would lead to worse finishing positions which would mean less money. It's not like the players are surplus that can be sold. The real value lies in how the club has been doing and potential to improve (both on and off it).

I seriously don't know if you are stupid or just trolling?