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NFA spokesman Demola Olajire said: "His statement is insultive to the Nigerian nation and unbecoming of a Premiership manager. "We dont take kindly to snide remarks about our players, or our nation and we will be lodging a strongly-worded complaint to the English FA to sanction him." Two more Nigerians, Ahmed Abdulrahman and Fatai Amoo (yes they are their real names) have also moved quickly to criticise Moyes. "It was a racist comment, If Yakubu was Brazilian or European, would he have called it Brazilian or European age?” Abdulrahman said. Amoo, apparently stunned by Moyes comment, said: "I want to believe he was joking. John Terry made a similar remark when John Mikel Obi celebrated his 20th birthday too."

Most of the youth team is Bill

Portsmouth had his bones tested when he signed for them a few years, his age is proven to correct thereabouts. Samuel Eto is 2 years older than he says he is however, he was rumbled in his autobiography by saying he met a famous player after a african cup qualifying game when he was ten, if he was born when he said he was, he would have been eight.

More important than the result.. Ratcliffe managed to prounounce Jagielka correctly once.. quote of the game.. "I used to manage his brother at Shrewsbury, we called him Jags though".

bring ice cream I love Italian ice cream

http://www.knowsley.gov.uk/consultation/ki...kby_tesco4.html Adobe Acrobat reader is needed to view them.

Adrian Heath, has been appointed as new boss of US side Austin Aztex. The team will play in the USL league and will play their first competitive game in 2009.

When I read it I thought of Carsley saying he'd like to be a coach so Moyes probably wants him on the staff in the future?

Welcome to TT.

He was on radio today and told the presenters he is an Evertonian. Knowing how well thought of he is in the USA, it'd be tragic not to get him to help spread the word of the Everton cause. Stick him on the board as I say

Looks like they've been given the go ahead.. is it a good or bad thing though?

So far.. so good: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/d.../tcoef2008.html

‘Everton to pay tribute to a founding figure.’ Extracts from’ The Evertonian’ – February 2008 - issue 161 Everton FC and Liverpool FC hope to combine to restore the grave of the Revd Ben Swift Chambers, the Methodist minister who was a key figure in the clubs’ formation. The neglected grave was discovered in the Yorkshire village of Shepley by Peter Lupson while researching the church roots of famous football clubs for his book, ‘Thank God for Football.’ Bill Kenwright and Rick Parry both responded positively to the suggestion that the two clubs should combine to restore Chambers’ grave and re-dedicate it at a joint service of commemoration. Reverend Ben Chambers joined the Methodist church in 1869. He was eventually appointed circuit superintendent and minister of St Domingo Chapel in the Everton district of Liverpool on July 1st, 1877. He was a great lover of cricket and after only a couple of months he had persuaded members of the Young Men’s Bible Class to set up St Domingo Cricket Club. A year later in 1878 the St Domingo cricketers felt it would be a good idea to take up Association Football during the winter months to keep fit. This was common attitude at the time. Association Football was still in its infancy and was regarded as little more than an opportunity for winter exercise by members of cricket clubs. The members found the football very enjoyable and began to take it seriously. They called themselves St Domingo Football Club in the winter months. Soon they were the best team in Stanley Park and began to attract players from other churches. Within a year the team was no longer wholly representative of the St Domingo chapel and it was decided to rename the football section of their cricket club Everton after the district in which they lived. Everton grew more and more successful and in 1884 opened a new stadium called Anfield. Success followed and in 1891 the club became the champions of the Football League’s First Division, the top flight in England. A year later, there was a split in the ranks. The club’s landlord and president, John Houlding, had increased the rent on the Anfield stadium to such a level that the majority of the committee rebelled and Houlding promptly expelled them from Anfield, intending to run the club under the Everton name without them. But the exiled Evertonians appealed to the Football Association, claiming they were rightful heirs to the Everton name. Their appeal was upheld and Houlding was forced to find a different name for the club he wanted to run at Anfield. He chose Liverpool. The Evertonians meanwhile migrated to the Walton district where they built Goodison.’ (Chambers family re restoration please contact Peter Lupson – lupsonp@yahoo.co.uk) I believe the above story is perfectly timed and highlights the urgency required to re-examine the use of Stanley Park by Liverpool FC. Stanley Park is hallowed ground and should be used by either both clubs or neither. It is the spiritual home of football in our city, our roots. Both clubs should be entitled to keep their souls intact and therefore both clubs have equal rights to Stanley Park. In fact I cannot think of any other city in the world with two or more football teams with a greater history and tradition. This then poses a number of questions – Planning permission refused for Everton FC; Planning permission granted to Liverpool FC Numerous rumours abound as to why we did not get permission and Liverpool did but in light of the above article surely this should be investigated and proper answers given as to why one club was chosen over the other. A public enquiry Is there history and precedent so that a complaint could be lodged with the Government, House of Lords or European courts of Law as to who has rights to Stanley Park considering the historic significance to both clubs history? Shared stadium Now and the bigger picture – next 100 years. The decision to share overshadows other proposals as this is a unique opportunity to re-enforce the totally unique story that is already attached to both clubs over 100+ years . Our birth re-affirms our place in global football as one of the founder cities of Association Football, with the most unique story – from our roots to present day. Not just domestically or across Europe but unique in global football. It reads like a fictional thriller and will draw millions of fans from all over the world to the stadium – Mecca of football, Holy Grail? Plus the National Museum of Football in Preston is within an hour. Add in the The Beatles and you have a worldwide attraction for music and football. The two most successful teams in English football, the oldest league in the world. Liverpool have a larger fan base in the Far East, for example, who will visit but they will also visit the whole stadium and enjoy our museum and discover the truth and take that information home with them. Take our Singapore blue from the ToffeeWeb Mailbag who is an Everton fan because he did not want to be a ‘sheep’ and follow his friends who all picked Man U, Arsenal etc because they were on the TV more often. He looked into the history of Everton and new he was ‘born’ - a true blue. Once people know the history they become intrigued and excited. Marketing a shared stadium It would be a dream ticket, a dream deal, the ‘real’ deal of the century. How many revenue streams are there to exploit? Birth, history, supporters, Wembley finals in the 80s, blue and white everywhere, one bedroom blue, the other red, football tourists, tourists in general who see the stadium as part of a Liverpool City tour. Grow with the city – stadium used every week, concerts in the summer, full hotels, bars, transport etc – all of which keeps underlining and growing the name of both clubs and the city. And above football this is all our city. TV documentaries re the restoration of the grave but also the whole history of the clubs and how they are intertwined over 100+ years – add in a shared stadium and you have a brilliant story to sell around the world. When tourists do visit and stay in the city and mix with locals they will then be able to understand the passion and history and pass it on. One of best stadiums in world – Liverpool as the city now the focus of world football where it should be – not Manchester, London or Madrid. Re-affirm our history and also generate money from all of the above – pot of gold. Stadium design. Two main ends behind goals: Everton’s end – gates opposite Goodison; Liverpool’s end – gates facing Anfield. Away supporters on the side. Both ‘home’ ends will then attract the singers etc. If you do not want to sit behind the goal then pick a place – when either club is away would we vandalise our own ground when a brother or sister might support the other team? We can police it ourselves. Colour of seats can be worked out. Therefore each team gets an L shape – one end and one main stand – equal numbers of seats taking into account away fans. Dixie Dean statue one side – Bill Shankly the other. Both teams’ museums. Trophies and memorabilia. Everton ‘firsts’. Moore’s’ family. Plus the ex players and on and on. Money. How can Everton FC fund their share? Tell the same story to investors – present the possibilities in terms of global domination as the two most famous clubs in the world with the totally unique story – how can that not attract investors? Would Chang invest more money as they see the long term opportunities? Just one example. Better people than me will see hundreds of ways and means to attract investment with a dream package. Infrastructure there or ready to go in This would have a major economic impact on the clubs themselves, local area and city. North West Development Agency has offered money only if we share – they can see the potential. I am only scratching the surface of what could be achieved... Identity How can we loose an identity that is already over 100 years old by going back to our roots and place of birth? Our identity is passed down from generation to generation and will only be reaffirmed as more and more supporters understand our roots. As experts all over the world discuss the loss of football in the local community and its identity amongst local supporters, we would deepen our roots further and grow them stronger along with major growth of the team through marketing. Our identities would become deeper and stronger. Rivalry will still be fierce. Most passionate and knowledgeable fans in world. One of most passionate cities in the world. One of best stadiums in world, most visited stadiums in world. Most earning stadiums in world. Educate the world – city of Liverpool, two teams, two cathedrals, The Beatles. 70,000 plus supporters in the ‘old’ days for a derby back again. Keep both teams community-based where they belong. Engrained in folklore within 10 to 20 years around the globe. Links with other clubs, ie, Barcelona... Next step in our unique history? Kirkby??? – After all of the above why is Kirkby even on the table? Resentment Pride comes before a fall as they say – Scouse Blues and Reds are the reason other clubs around the world envy us – we are in the same family – live in the same houses. The implications of not sharing are far too deep and disturbing even if we re-develop Goodison – they will have Stanley Park. It is sacrilege. Even if you disagree sharing a stadium, you cannot possible support the scandalous decision to allow Liverpool sole permission to build on Stanley Park. To let Liverpool FC go ahead with Stanley Park would be an insult to St Domingo Football Club. They do not have the right. Only the two clubs sharing a stadium have the right. Not only would it be scandalous for Liverpool to be allowed to go ahead but by not sharing both clubs will miss out on the one-off golden opportunity that presents itself. An opportunity which is too good to miss; historically, morally and for the future. If we can unite to recognise our roots and birth and restore the Revd Ben Swift Chambers grave then we can unite to complete our circle of history. Recognised domestically, across Europe and globally, as having the most unique football clubs, fans, city and history in the world. The spiritual home of both clubs. St Domingo (Nike) Stadium? Stanley Park (Nike) Stadium? To quote Winston Churchill – ‘The farther backward you look, the farther forward you are likely to see.’ Thank you http://www.toffeeweb.com/season/07-08/comm...bmissionID=5963

That's the opinion of the Echo's Everton correspondent, he said it tonight on the CityTalk show. He said Pienaar would sign an Everton contract tomorrow with his eyes closed because he loves life in the city. Bit of good news

Alright Matt, welcome to ToffeeTalk My problem is not the four miles. It's partly because Everton are leaving the city in a period of renaisance to a town on the outskirts of Knowsley that is closer to St Helens than it is to Liverpool city centre. It's partly because stadium in reality is a lot different to what was voted for It's partly because the stadium is on a retail park It's partly because we have been lied to again and again about the price of the stadium (some people still think it will cost £35million) It's partly because we won't own the stadium outright (we will own a third) or the land it is built on. It's partly because there have been talks to turn Goodison into a Tesco (how else would the club state they will receive £15million for land worth £4million and the local MP turn a blind eye to a business that generates £50million leaving his area, he knows theres another company with a similar turnover coming in that offers local people jobs!) It's party because our CEO stated that turnover will increase by £10million per annum if we move yet much of this money will be swallowed up by new stadium costs and paying off our other debts which means we will be worse off by moving to Kirkby.

on the toilet!? It is multi facilities.. they host concerts and have a conference centre apparently. We all know they host international matches already.

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/brian-harris-dies.html

Did anybody hear about the Wednesday fan who has been taken to court over comments he made about their CEO? http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=73372

Doesn't matter SteveO, I jumped the gun so what I posted is drivel! It turns out they were at loggerheads and Tesco were sounding out how much of a threat Development Securities could be to the scheme.

Today it was reported in the Liverpool Daily Post that Tesco approached Development Securities (DevSecs). They held a meeting on Thursday night. Whilst Everton and Tesco have refused to pass comment, DevSecs confirmed nothing has changed. A DevSecs spokesman said "At Tesco’s request, we met with them at our offices. Both parties explained their positions and are now considering what was discussed. We are happy to confirm that our position has not changed in respect of this project.” This has led me to believe that Tesco can meet potential new business partners who offer an alternative scheme to the one that is proposed. My question is simple ‘Why can't Everton?’ Personally I believe the agreement nothing more than a smokescreen, a charade, a scheme to pull the wool over the eyes of the supporters who abide by the club’s Latin motto Nil Satis Nisi Optimum. As business partners Everton surely gave permission for Tesco to approach DevSecs, if they did not and Tesco approached DevSecs then that should have rendered the 'exclusivity agreement' null and void as the agreement would have been broken. Whenever a question is asked relating to the stadium, whether it is a simple question such as “Who will own the stadium?” we receive the same the response. The response is fast becoming the club’s mantra. The response is ‘we can’t discuss that due to the exclusivity agreement in place’. We hear time and time again that Everton are locked in talks by the infamous exclusivity agreement, an agreement that nobody knows when it began nor when it will end, that's if it even exists. If Everton did indeed grant Tesco permission to discuss the project with another company then it proves that the exclusivity agreement is nothing more than a smokescreen. This would essentially mean that Everton are not interested in looking at alternatives at all and keeping all their eggs in the one basket. This would have been the ideal time to break the silence and state their intention to look at more favourable alternatives. Many fans know that there are better options available to the club, Tesco certainly know as their CEO mentioned one of them in his open letter to the club. Our very own CEO Keith Wyness knows there are better options available to Everton than the "deal of the century". In fact it was such a good deal that he e-mailed all the people who are registered on the official site with a Knowsley address pleading that they write to the Knowsley council supporting the scheme. If they didn't grant permission what is stopping Everton from looking into alternative stadium sites put forward to them, predominantly the redevelopment of Goodison Park and Scotland Road?

ToffeeTalker is myself Bill, someone has Louis! Reading betweens the lines you could easily come to the conclusion that the "exclusivity agreement" is a farce. Why are Tesco allowed to speak to DevSecs about what could essentially become alternate scheme to the one proposed (as the current one is too big for Kirkby, source - North West Metropolitan Area), more importantly to us, Why are Everton seemingly reluctant to speak to someone else? It raises a lot of questions.

CarlMc, This is a verbatim quote from Robert Earle at the AGM: "The Kirkby stadium cost was around £50 million when first floated. After the feasibility study and the Board’s wish that supporters only received the highest quality seating, facilities, environment etc., the cost rose to about £75 million. Due to construction costs, the figure then became approximately £100 million. Now, because construction costs have risen again, the total stadium cost at Kirkby is in the region of almost £150 million" Also in http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/...00252-19485345/ it states "It will cost £150m, rather than the £75m price tag reported this week." Incidentally the article also shows the bias of the Echo, the stadium cost rises £75million and it's summed up in one sentence, had it been 'you know who' it would have been all over the back pages that the cost has increased. More should have been made of it, the same could be said for when Earle said Tesco were giving 55million quid to Everton, they're not and never have been (they're a plc) yet the Echo never questioned it and published it. There are still people out there who believe the stadium will cost £35million and that Tesco are giving Everton £55million. This is not true.

2007/08 Season Totals 6 in 20... over 1 goal every 4 games..

We have now had confirmation of the date of the final. It will be played on Sunday 4th May at noon. The venue will be the Dockers Club, Townsend Lane, Anfield, Liverpool 6. It was announced earlier this week that another competition in honour of Rhys is to take place The Rhys Jones Memorial Cup, organised by Rhys' father is also taking place in May. I just wanted to state that these are seperate competitions to avoid any confusion.