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http://www.guillembalague.com/rumores_desp.php?id=90

I was going to compare with the rest of the Premier League but Deloitte only compare the reknown European Clubs so I wasn't able to find any data about Bolton, Man City, Wigan etc. This is what I found the other day. These are from the 2006/7 season (the latest figures released) Arsenal 3,300,000 Chelsea 2,483,333 Everton (Goodison Park) 800,000 - Robert Elstone's figure. Liverpool 1,324,137 Manchester United 3,189,655 Newcastle United 1,158,621 Tottenham 1,030,000 Everton (Kirkby in 2010) 1,326,316 <-- That's slightly high because I added £10million predicted additional revenue and divided by 19 for the league games only, if it was divided by 22 (the number of home games in 06/07) it would be £1,254,545. I know it's an increase but it's still predicted to be less than our rivals were three years earlier. Don't get me wrong, based on the 2006/07 results it would be the fifth highest matchday revenue in the league but it's still near half of what third place is - sod the other 15 teams for now, this is why we are relocating to try and bridge the gap with the 'big four'. Liverpool are moving out of Anfield because they are wanting to increase matchday revenue meanwhile Everton are wanting to move to Kirkby to earn less than what Anfield brings in. It seems we are limiting our future income not having a higher number of hospitality boxes. Man City have 70 boxes - http://www.conferences-uk.org.uk/conferenc...ester%20Stadium White Hart Lane has 120 - http://www.sportandtechnology.com/features/0249.html Aston Villa have 105 - http://www.chooseyourevent.com/aston-villa...spitality-venue I couldn't find how many Newcastle United have, but Kirkby will have 38, Goodison falls way short of that with 9.

The answer lies with the corporates.. Arsenal have 150 corporate boxes. Everton will have 38 in Kirkby (they wanted a minimum of 60 according to Savills - their representatives). It also supports the need for a groundshare

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/foo...icle4888055.ece Everton are expected to become the next Barclays Premier League club to fall under Arab ownership after it emerged that a Middle Eastern consortium is favourite to buy the club. An Indian investor is also understood to have registered an interest in the Merseyside club, but the more advanced bid is from an investment group in an Arab state that is preparing to make an official bid within the next fortnight. Bill Kenwright, the Everton chairman, has been looking for outside investment for the past three years, conscious he does not have the wealth to enable his club to compete at the top end of the transfer market and he is confident his search is close to fruition. Kenwright is being advised by Keith Harris, the leading football financier, who sat alongside him at Goodison Park yesterday when Everton drew 2-2 with Newcastle United. The Tyneside club have also enlisted Harris’s services as Mike Ashley, their chairman, looks to offload his stake as soon as possible. Ashley is determined to find a buyer for Newcastle as a matter of urgency, but the Everton takeover is being handled more cautiously, with Kenwright eager to find the right individual or group of individuals to take the club forward. A number of conference calls have been held with representatives of potential investors, with Sir Philip Green, the billionaire British businessman, also offering Kenwright advice, as he has done on an increasingly regular, although informal, basis in recent months. Reports yesterday suggested that Kenwright hoped to have a deal completed by the new year, allowing David Moyes, the Everton manager, significant funds to strengthen his squad during the January transfer window. However, the expectation at Goodison Park is that a deal could go through next month, if discussions continue to progress as they have done. In the meantime, Moyes is close to signing a new long-term contract, with his future unaffected by the expected change in ownership.

I think the Ambani rumours are just that sadly! http://www.eufootball.biz/Clubs/0210084-Everton...n-takeover.html Here's food for thought... the £11million revenue is to be initially £10million.. meaning that the new stadium in Kirkby will bring in less revenue than Liverpool currently earn at Anfield and they're looking to move out because it's not making enough money! That's one reason why a groundshare would be more lucrative for Everton.

He's denying he said it... http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnatio...91466-21946184/ Surely hypocritical to have Ferguson as manager if he Scottish players are not to be involved?

Name: Ross Barkley DOB: 5th December 1993 Position: Defender The 14 year old scored in a 6-0 win over Northern Ireland http://www.thefa.com/England/U16s/NewsAndF...I_Ballymena.htm

I was in attendance when Mr Elstone gave his presentation. A few points to consider.. Everton earn £800k per home game whilst Arsenal earn £3.3million - in layman's terms, less than a quarter of what Arsenal gain now. Everton have said that we can expect £11million more revenue incoming per season at Kirkby. This is not just from home games, this is everything all together. Let's look at this over the course of a season with league games only on a like for like basis. For Arsenal it's 59.4m per season For Everton, it equates to £15.2m per season at Goodison, add the entire 11million for Kirkby and it comes to £26.2million. This would mean Everton income at Kirkby is £1.3million per home game at best - still £2million behind Arsenal per game which is more than double the income at Kirkby or £38million a season on league fixtures alone. I don't think the board would admit it but the Kirkby plan isn't the springboard to success they'd try and have us believe. I keep banging on about this but we need to look at other stadium options. Also I find it worrying that Everton have committed "less than £2million" to the project already when they are expecting prices to rise due to the public inquiry but they don't know who are expected to pay for the excess.. Everton say they can't afford more than £78million.

With regards to the meeting, I don't understand why the Savills and KSS guys were needed as they are contracted to Destination Kirkby. In KSS' case, a near £30million contract is at stake so they are naturally going to deter alternatives as its a lot of money to lose out on. KSS are the 'interior architects' for the Kirkby stadium i.e. they design the lounges etc. My understanding is he didn't know much about C-Values (spectator viewing distances and angle to the pitch) and the architect and engineer who attended have said they believe fans will be shocked by how far away from the pitch they would be in Kirkby! The whole KRISP group is fishy in my opinion - why have they took so long to form? Their chairman is a former Knowsley Labour councillor(and close friend of George Howarth) who are supportive of the scheme. If he genuinely believe it's for a better future for Kirkby then good luck to him, if its a stunt to get him back in council then shame on him. The guy they quote David Dodd, is from Kirkby Small Firms Forum - it's a massive own goal on his behalf by taking people out of Kirkby to the Trafford Centre. It may even backfire for the residents who go who see the scale of the shopping complex and think "I don't want something that size on my doorstop".

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Are you sure it wasn't just dark Jim?

http://www.itvlocal.com/wales/news/?player...amp;void=242238

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Search-Duncan-Ferg...1350&sr=8-1 It may interest some people on here...

Brian Callaghan - a 48 year old Evertonian suffered a heart attack outside Leige's stadium before the game last night and died as a result. Rest In Peace

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It's my fault we lost, last year I put the opposing club crest in toffeetalk logo.. I did it for all except Fiorentina.. and I didn't do it for Leige either.. coincidence?

We're in the North West, they're in the North East. A completely different region. Freddie Sheppard said Ashley bought it dirt cheap because he wasn't involved in negotiations due to poor health.

E_W, I'm not a shareholder so I'm hardly going to be the voice of the shareholders I'll find your other post and reply in there. Thescore, It was in response to your post above: If "every week" was just a phrase then I apologise, the same thing has been said on another forum so it seemed like a rumour doing the rounds. I was attempting to clarify that it was never the case. EDIT -- I've just seen Licker's post.. If you want to discuss it, then lets all go to to a thread created solely for the purpose.

Dangermouse/The Score, A few things need clarifying regarding the EGM.. you are correct in assuming that the shareholders who lobbied for the EGM are not entirely supportive of Everton's proposed ground move i.e. they have doubts over its viability. The EGM was called for in the summer before the season began, the board chose the date of when it should take place. There is an unsubstantiated rumour that there was going to be a EGM called every week. This is not and never has been the case. The same thing has appeared on bluekipper too. The original EGM was called regarding the stadium issues as a number of shareholders have concerns. Regardless of your opinion on the ground move, please bare in mind that the separate shareholders associations all agreed to support the EGM - they have never to my knowledge supported an EGM together before - attempts have been made in the past to gather their support and failed. It was clearly something shareholders wanted information about. There were plans for a second EGM that were for non-stadium issues but it was never expected to be a weekly event and it's a rumour that has been peddled by the likes of yourselves. I posted the the details of the second EGM in another post, feel free to look at it. On the Moyes contract front, there was something in the papers the other day that the new contract does not include travel expenses and that is a reason why it's still not been finalised.

I'm shocked at this thread - where did all this anti-Moyes feeling come from?

I think Kenwright is hit and miss. He has some good points and some bad. This is a quick summary Good Evertonian Seemingly good relationship with manager Good at PR Doesn't sell players behind managers back! Bad Club debt has increased every year he's been chairman (bar Rooney sale season) Reluctant to sell despite saying he will Proxy chairman - makes some decisions from London without knowing the ins and outs of major deals.

http://www.evertonfc.com/eauction/detail/3...ha-signed-shirt That has to be some mistake surely? The rest are going for a couple hundred!

Fans from across the globe will be able to get close to some of football's most coveted trophies at the ground-breaking Only a Game? exhibition which opens in Liverpool next month. Trophy trio The UEFA Champions League trophy, the UEFA Cup and the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup will all be on display at the interactive exhibition in the World Museum Liverpool. In addition, the National Football Museum based in nearby Preston has supplied the shirts, medals and trophies of great European players of yesteryear, such as Ferenc Puskás, George Best, Franz Beckenbauer and Bobby Moore, as well as of modern-day stars like Chelsea FC goalkeeper Petr Čech. Thought-provoking While providing a traditional museum-visit experience, the exhibition also aims to provoke visitors into considering the social and cultural impact of the planet's most popular sport. Giant figures of Johan Cruyff and Kevin Keegan, among others, recount their own life stories as part of the exhibition's focus on the human face of football from the 1950s to the present day, and on how the sport can act as a uniting force for people of different nationalities, languages and cultures. Evocative Visitors should leave the exhibition with more questions than answers. Why do I care about football? Which emotions does football trigger? Does it strengthen my sense of local identity or introduce me to new cultures, or both? What does Europe signify in all of this? Media world Younger supporters can dip into the world of the media, mixing football footage with their favourite music to create their own video clip, or can show off their knowledge of the game by challenging friends to a quiz. The city of Liverpool's place in the history of football has not been forgotten, with special items from the Everton FC collection and from the museum of five-time European champions Liverpool FC adding unique local flavour. Culture capital The exhibition, which will run from 11 October to 1 March 2009, has been organised by UEFA in conjunction with the Northwest Regional Development Agency, the National Football Museum and National Museums Liverpool to mark the city's year as 2008 European Capital of Culture.

Some interesting statistics but slightly flawed because of the low numbers participating in the survey.. http://www.premierleague.com/staticFiles/6...6~129127,00.pdf

What I don't like about them is there's not enough teams. There isn't one African club team for example. I also don't understand why Pro Evo won't allow the J-league to be in it despite Konami holding the license.